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Am i putting too musch pressure on myself?

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  • Started 2 years ago by longfordman
  • Latest reply from day_dreamer


  1. longfordman

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    Hi so im starting 5th year in September and picked my subjects for leaving certificate.
    Some people tell me i'm trying to do too much so could anyone give me their honest opinion of what they think of my subjects and if they may be too dificult. At the bottom of the question i will leave the grades i got in the junior cert for the respective subjects so you can get an idea of what my ability is thanks

    LEAVING CERT. SUBJECTS

    IRISH (HL)
    ENGLISH (HL)
    MATHS (OL)
    FRENCH (HL)
    CHEMISTRY (HL)
    BUSINESS (HL)
    MUSIC (HL)
    GEOGRAPHY (HL)
    LCVP (CL)

    For my junior cert i got

    Irish A
    English A
    French B
    Science/Chemistry B
    Business B
    Music B
    Geography B

    All through higher, i hope for good replies, good and honest thanks

    Posted 2 years ago #
  2. 5blockedAccounts

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    Simple answer YES you are putting 2 much pressure on yourself.

    You have 9 subjects, no matter what only ypur best 6 will be counted.
    If i was you i would give up Music and LCVP. This means you still have 6 honours subhects (which you should devote all ypue study time to as these will be counted for your points)
    Furthermore, OL maths can be passed easily without any study, especially seeing you done Hons for the junior.

    May i ask how many points are you aiming towards??

    Posted 2 years ago #
  3. longfordman

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    but the only thing is that i am in Grade 7 piano grade 4 violin and play guitar accordian and tin whistle myself
    so giving up music is not really an option for me because my parents will feel that they have wasted all teir money over the years!
    i actually was thinking of giving up lcvp, but then i was thinking if i dropped to a ordinary level in lets say geog. if i get an A1 i will only be able to gedt 60 points, but if i get a distinction in lcvp i will get 70 points
    pointswise i would be looking for over 500-540!. any other suggestions.

    Oh and i forgot to put my mahs grade 4 junore cert. i got a C

    Posted 2 years ago #
  4. 5blockedAccounts

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    Pffff hard situation :L

    Right then id say to keep on music. But get rid of another subject (maybe geog if you dont like it).
    What i am saying is find your 6 best subjects and just concentrate on them.

    IMO lcvo is a complete waste of time if your an intellegent student. You can get way more then 70 points if you do a proper subject. Dont just limit your potential and work to a max of 70 points.

    I feel as your only in 4th year yet its important to relax and take time away from study. So to set yourself up for a big push in 6th year.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  5. Rebel Girl

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    Keep the LCVP - the only time that you will need to put towards it is the portfolio, because with business, you have most of the LCVP theory covered.

    I think drop the Geography or a subject. If you are that high in the grades for music, there is no way you should drop them, as it should be an easier subject for you than anyone else. If you were doing biology, I'd say drop chemistry, but since you have no other science subject, I can't say that.

    Posted 2 years ago #
  6. pmurphy52

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    accounting would be an easier subject to try. And ordinary maths will be simple

    Posted 2 years ago #
  7. Sexx_On_Fiire_Xx

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    Id say drop LCVP anyways because you can only get 60 points max.
    But apart from that id say keep the rest because its good to have back up. I regret not doing an extra subject on my own because im doing ordinary french, higher everything else. Also I wouldnt advise accounting if your not good at maths, its got a lot harder from the JC. Iif your going for high points defo keep geography and business as its easier to get high points if ya study them lots. Sounds like your good at music>keep that. Hope I helped. (:

    Posted 2 years ago #
  8. longfordman

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    thanks guys!! well im not bad at maths i got a C in higher just not brilliant at it.
    accounting.. was considering it but since i hated it in jc business i think it's a bad idea
    if it wasn't 4 d accounting part in business jc i would have defo got an A
    any oder ideas

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  9. pmurphy52

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    thats your own choice but. Its not that hard if you have a good teacher. A good ordinary maths student like myself has no problem with it

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  10. longfordman

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    ok i'l keep that in mind, did u do ol maths at junior level and by any chance do u do chemistry?

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  11. pmurphy52

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    i do chemistry ddddddddisaster. To hard. Do biology instead. i did higher for jc and got c.

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  12. minettestupide

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    Geography is a really interesting subject and I love it, but there is A LOT of learning in it. Basically you have to learn the entire course, plus do a field study, and it's tough. I think you'd be better off dropping Geography so you can focus completely on all your subjects rather than trying to keep up in Geography, and this is coming from someone who's doing Geography in college!
    As for LCVP, as Rebel Girl said, if you're doing Business, it'd be a good idea to do LCVP too as most of its theory is covered in Business. And Business is a really nice subject if you liked it for JC but just didn't like the accounting side of it.
    All I can advise is to keep up with your notes and don't leave it until 6th year to do everything because it's enormous pressure. But also, enjoy your 4th year! Really make the most of it because the experience is a great one.

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  13. Rebel Girl

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    longfordman, why did you pick chemistry over biology?

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  14. bambam2010

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    hey i think u are puttin too much on your plate, wen i went into 5th year (im in LC now) im actually chose bio geo chem and music and trust me if u do decide to drop a subject id suggest u defo keep geo and music! the music LC course is so much better than in JC in the LC u have 4 set works and all 4 defo come up so theres no suprises in store (the irish music Q is very predictable..usually a jig with a hornpiipe and a fusion of irish trad and modern) and i absolutely love geo its my fav suvject and i find it the easiest aswell coz with subjects like math 1 error can throw u off and in subjects like art there are a million ways too draw a picture (and similar in music where there can be several answers all right!) but in geo its either right or wrong.. if you have to write on a countrys primary sector the facts are there and its just learning off...plus in music and geo you can do a practical/field study for part of your exam whereas as im doin chem (well i was i found it so difficult im droppin out wenever i get back to school (its closed coz of bad snow)) and all the exam is done on the 1 test at the end of the year!! ( btw i also got a B in (HL) scince and i was still over my head in chem! and i only got a B in (HL) geo and im averaging 96% at the mo in my tests coz the course is very easy to revise imho, same with music) i cant say anything bout business and frech coz im not doin neither... hope i helped!

    Posted 2 years ago #
  15. Carima

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    Hi
    I studied Music on my own for my Leaving Cert many many years ago. I also did piano and violin. I taught Music for the last Intercert - so that's a very long time ago. I went back to University after 10 years teaching Music to do a Science degree and have since been teaching Maths, Geography, and Biology part time.

    My advice to you is keep all your subjects for this year. By the end of the summer exams you will know which subjects you WANT to sit down to study. Like music - you either feel like doing your scales before your pieces or the other way around - what feels good after you've given them all a fair chance is what you should go with.

    Don't think about 'to drop', think about what you love to learn, what interests you and tick them off your list giving each a priority level. If something has to go, let it be the one you like least that has the lowest priority level. But don't let it go until after the summer exams when you will be in a position to really judge the subject.

    Your musical training will have given you good self-discipline and the ability to work on your own, so play to your strengths. 30 minutes study per subject is more than adequate (I used only do 20 per subject because music practice took up so much time). So if you are doing 8 subjects and give them AT MOST 30 minutes study per day - you only need 4 hours study. Alternatively, work out how long you will spend on piano(an hour at grade 7, less if you are particularly talented with good technique) and violin (30-ish mins at grade V). Now how much time have you left to study? Leave time for your meals and at least an hour for relaxation and recreation OTHER than music - something physical - a walk or dancing preferably with friends who are also good at time management. Divide the time you have available evenly between all 8 subjects. Even if it means you don't get all your homework done, give the same amount of time to each subject.

    (If the teacher challenges you, you can show him/her this. My French teacher used to give a lot of homework. I was very good at French and did it along with Music in UCD, but at school the teacher wanted to know why I hadn't all my French homework done. Like you - my parents wanted me to do well at music. So I said to her "it's like this, I have 20 minutes to give each subject and the work you set took more than 20 minutes so I couldn't fit it in". That teacher was the most feared and the "bitchy teacher" and everyone was scared of her, but when I put it to her logically, out-lining my priorities and my time management she accepted it. Everyone else was too scared of her - they used to spend so long at French that their other subjects suffered.)

    My friends would complain that I never did any study and I always got A's. Let me tell you now, I am not naturally a genius - but I always liked learning and I kept to my time management strategy, including a 5 minute break in between subjects and it works. It is a fact that the mind can only concentrate at the most 40-45 minutes at one go. So work with your own body as you do with music. Relax, focus for 20 minutes (or 25 or 30 depending on bed time), break. Next subject. There is always enough time - if you need more advice on how I did it, let me know. Remember that sleep is essential and use tricks like turning off the music, write out what you want to learn off by heart and go to sleep - your brain will keep working on it while you sleep.

    On a side note - it is scientific fact that it is ok to have Mozart on but not Stravinksy (due to the relationship between regular four-four time and brain-waves) when studying but that's another story.

    I am still studying - I'm a perpetual student. Just today I found another course I want to do on Greek and Roman Mythology with the Open University. My point is that I had to re-learn HOW to study EFFECTIVELY, because I had forgotten how important time management was. Self-discipline and a clock will bring you where you want to go. I wish you every success on your journey. Don't forget that you have a great resource here on All-Honours - we're all here to help.
    Best wishes
    Carima

    Posted 2 years ago #

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